This past week, I
interviewed the owner of Modern Shoe, Inc., a small business in downtown Provo,
Utah, that sells high quality shoes. Tony, the owner, does all the hiring of
employees, and occasionally includes his wife, Jane, in the interviewing
process.
When hiring
a new employee, the specific traits he looks for in the applicants are good
personality, honesty, overall appearance, and if they seem trainable and not
fixed in their ways already. If the candidate worked for a large corporation,
they were likely told exactly what to do and how to do it. Tony prefers someone
that can be taught and that is able to “think on their feet.” Often he finds
that former large corporation sales persons are unable to do this.
As stated above, Tony most often
interviews candidates alone, but will include his wife to sit in on the
interview if the candidate is a member of the opposite sex. Jane is also owner
and secretary of the Modern Shoe, Inc. corporation. Modern Shoe does not have a
Human Resources staff member because it is a small business of about twelve
employees.
Tony states
he prefers to interview candidates on an individual bases, not in a group. Tony
says about thirty years ago, group interviews were almost unheard of. For
example, when he had a managerial position at AutoZone, his boss would do the
interviews, and then later would have Tony do the interview. They would
converse about it after. Tony has maintained the tradition of interviewing
applicants individually and not in a group setting. Plus, Tony says he would
feel uncomfortable, if he, himself, were to be interviewed in a group setting.
In most
every case, Tony checks references. If he hires a family member, he does not
check references. Tony referred to a little saying, “It’s as hard to find a good
candidate as it is to find a bad reference” (quote from the book On Hiring,
authored by Robert Half). The references that are most important to Tony are
former employers since they know the candidate in the working environment.
During an
interview, dishonesty is the number one reason for not getting hired. Tony says
it bothers him when people try and tell you what you want to hear. If they
contradict themselves, they one can easily assume they are not being honest.
In
determining who to choose, Tony mainly looks at their prior work history, how
well he thinks they will fit in with the other team members, and certain other
traits that is imperative for the job description. For example, if the
candidate would be potentially working in accounting and handling their money,
he would prefer someone who is detail-oriented and honest. That way he can feel
assured that all the money will be accounted for. For the graphic design and
advertising position, Tony likes to choose somebody who is not only artistic,
but disciplined and task-oriented. Not very often can he find these two traits
in one person. Basically, if the person
will be able to perform the job description, they are likely to be chosen (as
well as possessing the aforementioned traits). Tony also stated that if he
feels good about a potential employee during the interview, the reference is
usually what seals the deal for him.
Tony also
mentioned, as a potential employer, he will “sell” the Modern Shoe business to
the candidates. He knows how he portrays himself is important in whether people
will want to work for him. If they don’t think they will enjoy the company, he
likes to know that. One of the last candidates Tony hired said during the
interview that he felt like Modern Shoe would be a good place to work that
wouldn’t be too stressful. This was helpful for Tony to know.
Tony
performs a screening process by calling applicants on the phone. This way he
can eliminate some applicants beforehand and narrow it down to just a few
candidates. Most often he asks what their availability might look like,
especially if they are a college student. If their schedule doesn’t match up
with his need at work, they will be screened from his list. He will then schedule
an interview with the remainder and sets aside at least 15-30 minutes for each
interview. During the interview, if Tony knows the applicant won’t be a good
fit with his company, he will end the interview as soon as possible. If he
believes there is a possibility for them to be hired, the interview will last a
lot longer, sometimes up to an hour.
First
impressions, especially good hygiene, and being punctual to the interview are
very important to Tony. He does not want a tardy employee showing up to work.
Often employees are responsible for opening the store at 10am. If they are
late, they could be losing business.
Tony does
not include a point system in the hiring process. He interviews with questions
and really tries to get a feel for who the person is and what they are like.
Some traits Tony looks for is if the candidate appears self-motivated, will
follow-up with things and is a hard worker.
There are
times Tony warrants a second interview with potential employees if he wants a second
look, or to have a different view on a different day. Often he will include his
wife, Jane, during the second interview. For example, he had one candidate who
was very shy and reserved, but with the second interview, she was more
talkative. She ended up being hired and was outstanding on the salesfloor.
These second interviews were helpful for determining more of the person’s
personality.
Tony states
he is very rarely in a hurry to make a decision about who he hires, unless the
need for an employee is more urgent. Early on, when he first owned the company,
he would write letters right away and thanking candidates for the interview
while informing them they didn’t receive the position. Now, Tony only calls the
people that he chose with an offer over the phone.
Tony states
that once in twenty five years has a candidate ever blown him away where he
hired them on the spot. (Although, he can’t remember who it was). Other than
that, he has always slept on things over night without making rash decisions as
to who to hire. It is a carefully thought out process involving discussion with
his wife, and co-owner, Jane, in the hiring decision process.
From this
hiring experience, I learned a lot of different factors play into hiring a
person. The interview is the key time to get a feel for who the person is.
Being punctual, well-groomed, honest, hard-working, and a great personality are
qualities that are often looked for in a future employee. Modern Shoe does not
have a Human Resources member, but Tony has his wife sit in on the interview
when he interviews members of the opposite sex. This is a smart way to protect
himself by having another witness present. One thing that would be more
courteous to applicants is to give a time-frame for when they should receive a
call-back. If Tony feels too busy to do this, maybe he can have his wife, or
another employee perform these calls. This way, they will not be left wondering
or calling endlessly to see if they got the job or not. I like how Tony “sleeps
on” his decisions over night and takes his time before hiring someone. It is
important to not be rash or feel obligated to hire someone. This ultimately
helps him somewhat avoid the issue of having an employee he would want to get
rid of later on. Tony uses his time with second interviews or having his wife
accompany him later, to get a better feel of who the person is, what they might
be like working for them, and how well they will fit in with his other employee
team members.
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